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The Japanese marketplace weren't under legal threat, and still had many companies making copies for the domestic market. By the time the cease-and-desist was issued in 1976 Ibanez had already changed the headstock design, so the c&d was irrelevant, and nobody went to court.īy 1977 Ibanez had launched their original range (which they had already been developing for a few years) and stopped making copies altogether. There wasn't even an actual lawsuit, just a cease-and-desist from Norlin to Elger, the Ibanez distributor, to change the Gibson headstock design. Anything afterwards is really 'post-lawsuit era'. "Lawsuit era" is the correct term for guitars made in 1975/6. Find a real nice one, grab the calipers, do some research and compare them yourself. A good lawsuit is a Gibson, nothing more nothing less. That's not an opinion, these are things we can discuss and measure/observe in detail. Maybe tiny things like the plastic molding isn't the same as the 50's, but it isn't today either. I'm talking neck angle, headstock angle and thickness, abr-1 type bridge, neck joint styling, top thickness, body thickness/dimensions, 1 piece mahogany neck blank with dark rosewood, nut width, binding width, fret binding, lacquer finish.like literally THE LAST DETAIL. Most don't, but I've seen a few and have owned one that did. Secondly, it's the internet, you'll be contradicted from time to time but that's the point of a forum, otherwise you can just go about posting long winded blogs somewhere with no questions/criticism.īUT, having zero to do with opinion and sticking with the facts, for the era in which they were made high end lawsuits mirror the real Gibsons they copy (maybe aside from pickups) down to the last detail. I can't stand the term "killer" as if two guitars are in a death match or some silly thing. Therefore, proceed at your own risk.įirst off, I'm with you on the term "Gibson Killer".nothing is a Gibson Killer, it's either the same or different (higher or lower grade specs). Furthermore, no security is promised or implied by The Gear Page owners, administrators, or moderators. However, if you choose to trade or use an alternate payment such as Venmo, Zelle, PayPal-Gift, Crypto, or other forms of compensation, there is no recourse or protection for buyers. We recommend using a payment service that offers buyer protection, such as PayPal. Members must handle all the problems off of the Forum. Use the feedback system to report any issue. Negotiated terms are private between the two parties. In every listing, you must post a price or trade value price. If one party shows proof of fraud, the limit of what the owners, administrators, and moderators can do is remove the other party's posting privileges. All transactions are between the two private parties only. Members who choose to buy/sell gear via The Gear Page Emporiums understand that The Gear Page, its owners, administrators, and moderators a) make no guarantee of accurate descriptions, and b) are not liable for any loss due to transactions between individuals.īuyer Beware. The rule is below as it now reads and will be enforced. However, we are coming into a new era with people doing different manners of monetary transactions.Įssentially, we'll no longer require anyone to be tied to Paypal only people can now use whatever payment they want, but we want to let people know they are on their own. In the past, we had required people to use Paypal to head off attempted fraud, which has been a concern for many years. Please note that effective immediately we have updated the Emporium Rules for payment options.